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The world has changed in the wake of the #MeToo movement. What comes next? 

In the No.1 bestselling THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID, Joanne Lipman, former editor-in-chief of USA Today, offers real-world solutions and a path forward. There's no man-bashing here; Lipman explores how men as well as women can join together to close the gender gap. In this fast-paced book, packed with success stories and the newest data, she offers surprising insights into issues ranging from unconscious bias to child-rearing to gender brain differences, and provides practical tips to eliminate bias at work and at home.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID has been featured in The New York Times ("revelatory"), The Washington Post (No.1 Bestseller), Time, USA TODAY, Fortune, Forbes, Vanity Fair, Glamour, The New York Post and the London Sunday Times (a "must-read") in addition to ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, CBS and PBS, among others.




Adam Grant,

author of Option B 

(with Sheryl Sandberg)

Attention good guys: This book is for you.


Katie Couric,

journalist, presenter, author

It's great we are talking the talk, but Joanne Lipman's cutting-edge research and razor-sharp advice will help men and women alike start walking the walk.


Charles Duhigg,

author of The Power of Habit

Now, more than ever, we need this book and its real, pragmatic solutions.

Supplementary Material

Reader's Guide: Questions for book clubs and organizations

How do I start a conversation about the gender gap? What steps can I take? What should my company do?  Download this Reader's Guide, with questions to help illuminate conversations around That's What She Said.

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On the Air: That's What She Said

Joanne Lipman on CNN: Beyond #MeToo

Joanne Lipman joins Fareed Zakaria to discuss the #MeToo movement, the "respect gap" women face - and actions we can take to close the gender gap.

Women At Work: A Guide For Men

Joanne Lipman discusses her viral Wall Street Journal article, "Women at Work: A Guide for Men," on CNBC.

That's What She Said on "Reliable Sources"

Joanne's interview with host Brian Stelter about the dangerous lack of female leadership in newsrooms - and what we can do about it.

How to include men in the #MeToo conversation

Joanne Lipman sits down with CNNMoney's Kelly Wallace to discuss her new book 'That's What She Said' and what men need to know about working with women in the wake of #MeToo.

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